#i love jubulile so much

[kitausuret]

7. What “throwaway” character could they have done more with? 19. Rant about a change they made to a character of your choice.

7. What “throwaway” character could they have done more with?

Mmmmmmm Patricia Robertson and Jubulile van Scotter, my GIRLS. Now, granted, neither of these are necessarily "throwaway" characters, and in fact I will give Gerry Conway credit for how thoughtfully he wrote Jubulile. He let her be the big hero at the end of Carnage (2015) and that's beautiful. And Pat, for her part, was the first host to the symbiote that would eventually become Mania.

But the thing with both of these characters is that, save for the one-shot where Pat was literally killed off, we haven't seen them since those respective series. I'm glad that Jubulile was forgotten about if only because it meant that Donny Cates couldn't murder another one of the only WOC in Venom comics, but I still miss her. I was really banking on seeing her as the next Toxin.

19. Rant about a change they made to a character of your choice.

This is kind of like, inconsistent in how good/bad it is, or how prominent the change is, but by and large after One More Day, when Harry was resurrected he was... pretty different. It feels a lot like there was this push to make him more like he was in the Raimi films cool and kind of playboy-ish. It's something I probably wouldn't have even noticed so much if not for @theopolis pointing it out at one point, so when I did make the jump from his death in SSM #200 to ASM... #545 or whatever it is, it's really noticeable.

He's sometimes also drawn with weirdly wide shoulders and a broad face which is like, that's not Harry Osborn. Sometimes they make him look too much like his dad and that bothers me. Some writers did better, like Mark Waid wrote a pretty solid Harry, even Dan Slott did pretty well by him sometimes (don't tell him I said that) but it felt like nobody could agree on his characterization. Like, what are his values, what's important to him, how does he react to stressful situations, all really important things I think you have to be able to nail down if you're going to write him.

In an attempt to end on a more positive note, though, ASM Family #4 had a really wonderfully written and drawn Harry, so... let me give you this. Because it's not all bad. Until you get to Kindred.

[robocops-a-christ-allegory]

eddie brock 😔

😞 Really missing him ever since that boating accident...

Sexuality Headcanon: Bisexual for SURE

Gender Headcanon: Trans man. I also see him as very gender nonconforming

A ship I have with said character: Aside from with the symbiote. You made him with Pete really interesting and funny to me and now I support it when done right

A BROTP I have with said character: He and Jubulile are FRIENDS. I like to think they like zoom call like every two months to keep in touch

A NOTP I have with said character: Besides standard ‘nothing with underage characters because it’s wrong’, no Eddie with the Punisher. Not for moral reasons and I don’t think I’ve seen this yet but I don’t want to. Eddie should rip him in half. Also no Eddie Brock/Tony Stark Eddie should rip him in half as well

A random headcanon: I choose to believe Eddie dressing very basic all the time in recent years is like a in character choice he’s making because he’s now very paranoid about drawing too much attention to himself and the symbiote. Once he starts feeling more comfortable and less like they’re 5 seconds away from being separated all the time I think he’d start getting more into alternative styles and dressing more expressively. Basically what I’m saying is I think Eddie walks around dressed like a goth cat girl, with platform heels and fishnets and shit. Give him a spiked collar at LEAST

General Opinion over said character: That one emoji crying despairingly while screaming. I love Eddie so much it’s unreal but he’s so often written by people who HATE him. He’s at his best when they’re letting him be the weird overly emotional and verbose bastard with very strong convictions that he is. I think he’s a dude with a lot problems he can work out EVENTUALLY, but unfortunately he’s not very relatable to most people because he’s a angry unsympathetic murderer who’s allergic to taking responsibility for his actions even though he was getting better (😔), so they keep doing all this dumb shit with him so your average comic stan can have some common ground or at the very least sympathize with him. I actually vibe with him a lot and can really relate strongly at times, but I’m the only one actually it’s just me.

[symbean]

AWWWWW, CLETUS IS BEING FLOODED WITH JUBULILE'S HAPPY MEMORIESSSS

i wonder if this is gonna spark any sort of change in him, or if he’s just gonna go “ew happiness” and try to forget about it.

i like what happened in maximum carnage, where being happy literally gave him an existential crisis. it showed that he has, at the very least, some potential to get over his trauma, to heal, grow, and become somewhat of a better person.

though, he probably wouldn’t be able to become that much better, considering he already was a sociopath to begin with. (on top of the fact that they need to keep carnage as a serial killer in order to writer stories for them lmao)

but even so, i would absolutely love it if he were able to start moving past his trauma, to use this flood of happy feelings to spark some positive growth in him self, and actually come out somewhat improved. (emphasis on somewhat)

[softgrungeprophet]

it’s that time again. time for me to be annoyed/frustrated at the comics that came in the 20-teens that simultaneously responded directly to the 2000s, followed in the 2000s’ continuation, but completely glossed over and ignored the very serious topics that were brought up. and then we get the fucking 2018 run which does NEITHER and just seeks to make it worse for shock value without being even remotely thoughtful about anything it does! wow.

we could have had some really interesting growth for eddie and the symbiote’s relationship by honestly addressing things like eddie’s illness, hypocrisy as anti-venom, his status as a victim of abuse, and so on...

of course i know if i say “eddie is a victim” people will get hissy but like.... i’m not saying he’s an innocent blameless baby who was manipulated into being the weirdo he is... i’m just saying... he’s a victim of abuse. he’s been taken advantage of a lot. almost any help he’s received has required some kind of reciprocation.

he’s a shithead and he went off the deep-end after new ways to die because remender’s version of eddie fucking sucks, he’s smug and weird and violent, and also he’s been neglected and tortured and abused and experimented on and he needs therapy and blah blah blah

he’s also not some fuckin accidental drunk driver who was hit into thinking he’s innocent. that’s so fucking--jeez. everything about these retcons donny has been doing miss the point even more than the comics he says he loves so much. it’s wild. like i don’t like new ways to die OR new ways to live, remender’s run was okay but i hated the way he wrote eddie, marvel knights spider-man just sucks in general, the hunger 03 also sucks, but like they do feed into each other in a way that.... sort of makes sense....

i just wish there was a way any of the comics would have said, “hey look there are some ways in which eddie is a victim but there are also some ways in which he needs to take responsibility for his actions”

but that kind of nuanced take is impossible for the way these comics are put out and canceled and retconned and so on forever.. it’s so ... ugh.....

the hunger 03 sucks... it also influenced over a decades’ worth of Venom comics including costa’s in its own weird way.... and i just wish we could simultaneously be like, Yes the symbiote is not inherently evil or corrupting but Also it did abuse Eddie, and Yes Eddie has been treated poorly for a great deal of his life and Also is a motherfucker who needs to be held responsible for his actions.

Is this hypocritical to be like, “can we address the 2000s” while also saying “2018 run is not valid”

in my defense even the shitty 2000s were like a continuity and didn’t try to fully retcon every single aspect of venom lore that ever existed (tho it sure did plenty of retconning....) whereas the current run... is doing exactly that....

of course this goddamn run will probably also influence the following comics unless the next writers retcon the retcons or like, ignore it and it gets put into its own earth or something. idk. like no one really counts dark origin right? and that works cause it also had a negligible influence on the rest of the comics. but like, the bad hunger had a very lasting impact on the comics. so i guess we just hope that donny cates, despite currently selling super well, does not actually influence any of the comics that come after?

i don’t fuckin know. i just think it kind of sucks that like “eddie was abused” is something that gets used as either a “lol no that never happened and if you talk about it you hate the symbiote” or else an excuse to demonize the symbiote even after its own character growth arcs in the apparently supremely unpopular gotg and space knight stuff... lol

maybe if every fucking series from 2013 to 2016 (minus costa which is honestly more 2017) didn’t get canned we could have gotten more. like honestly, 2016′s Carnage--for all its flaws--seemed like it had something to say about Eddie as a character, about his flaws and so on, and I gotta wonder where that was going. It flat out says “Venom didn’t make Eddie Brock a bastard” so like? But then at the same time all of the symbiotes in that series were completely silent so? I don’t even know.

Cullen Bunn was clearly going somewhere too but I have no idea where other than “symbiote is alive but has trouble communicating” and “eddie is coming down from his murder spree as he realizes flash thompson is in fact helping people as agent venom”

the two fit together in a very strangely complementary way. sometimes i gotta wonder about a universe in which those two comics in particular ran concurrently to address venom, flash, toxin, and eddie’s many issues. but toxin’s probably gone... though in my heart they are with jubulile and her mom in south africa, learning what it’s like to be part of a loving family...

man. the resigned “Okay.” at the end of twav...... twav good imo.

anyway

i don’t even know what the point of this is. i’m all over the place in this post. it’s frustrating that donny has made it kinda impossible to bring up eddie’s victimhood without like... qualifying it to the ends of the earth to clarify that you don’t think he’s some kind of pure cinnamon roll who’s been dreadfully manipulated for 12 years....

I feel like I’m not making any sense!!! Words are hard.

I feel like I’ve kinda been avoiding writing about the symbiote though in part because it’s hard for me to balance that many characters and in part because of Donny’s stupid bullshit, which is dumb as fuck but I guess that’s what he wanted huh!!!! Need to read Lethal Protector to cleanse my palate but it’s taking forever to get it from the library because they only have one copy.

ugh

The symbiote is not an evil creature like he wants everyone to think... goddammit.... but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t carefully address both its and Eddie’s mistakes without fabricating new different mistakes to obscure the previous ones. Or whatever. Fuckin I don’t know lol the entirety of the continuity is just a bunch of bullshit. 80s-90s continuity largely separate from 2000-20...15ish continuity largely separate AGAIN from the 2016 continuity yet also directly tied to it, against completely separated from the 2018 continuity which is off saying “fuck you” to literally every venom writer to ever exist since Eddie’s conception, ironically including the guy who wrote the cursed hunger

What am I trying to say! I don’t know! i feel like a broken record. There’s a lot of empty space between Agent Venom and 2016 that was never filled! also between 2016 and 2018 lmfao.

Donny “everything went wrong and I’m not going to explain how other than ‘God’ and ‘Eddie lost his job cause screaming symbiote’“ Cates really pullin some shit. what do you mean eddie tends to work toward solving his own problems EVEN WHILE DYING. waid’s mini-story in NWTD showed that eddie, despite being sad and sick and exhausted was still like.... eddie, stubbornly searching out his own solutions and getting angry. ofc i’m not sure how well it succeeded at parts. the comics in those days were still pretty steeped in the weird symbiote hallucinations that it was never clear if they were meant to be caused by the symbiote or just eddie’s sick brain. like the Last Temptation. I have a love-hate relationship with those two issues... I think they’re pretty well-done but also something about them just rubs me the wrong way. 

Anyway back to Cates: it’s not like there wasn’t space for a spiral after FH or anything. You could have really dug into Eddie and the symbiote’s insecurities wrt family and parenting. but nah. let’s just make it so there’s a SECRET CHILD, and oh the pre-established sibling? we could have dug into her and made her a real character. but no, she doesn’t exist, women are either fake or dead or violated.

asshole.

but again like..... the 03 hunger, cursed and bad... like... it’s still workable. you can work with the corrupting forces, the addiction metaphor (on the SYMBIOTE’S part, with adrenaline) and the intense codependency, and still have them move on and into a healthier-by-comparison relationship.

but cates’ run is like... much harder to recover from if it has as lasting of an effect, because it leaves no part untouched, and goes beyond “normal” abuse into really weird unforgiveable territory... like the canon of that comic is the canon in which everything has been completely changed into something unrecognizable.

i joke about my AUs being unrecognizable because, visually at least, they WOULD be unrecognizable for most Venom fans, but the comics inform them as characters a lot in the stories i write in those AUs, from the 96 good hunger, to the 03 bad hunger, to space knight to venom inc, and so on. But donny cates really is out here essentially reverse-engineering retcons to justify his characterizations.

barely related: the way eddie was raised and the way he coped by overachieving and so on and so forth makes me think he would have--despite presumably gaining a great deal of confidence in college once out of his father’s home--been really vulnerable to being taken advantage of by like, other students or teachers, but idk how exactly to articulate what i mean like... uh... not even that he WAS taken advantage of but that his need for validation would have left him open to it... i guess??

that’s got pretty much nothing to do with this post though but kinda ties into what i’ve said before about how i think eddie was a withdrawn and isolated adolescent who only opened up in college. why i disagree with donny’s retcon for that reason in addition to other reasons--the way he’d been shown to be bullied as a kid in previous comics, as well as the lack of history of alcoholism, the clarification in lethal protector that carl wasn’t physical, so on and so forth.

again that’s not related to this post really... and it’s like, a good 50% headcanon, but it makes sense in my head as something that fits his history?? i guess?

[kitausuret]

One Line, Any Fic

Tagged by @seek--rest !

rules: pick any 10 of your fics, scroll somewhere to the mid point, pick a line, and share it! Then tag 10 people.

If you're reading this and you haven't already been tagged by someone... consider yourself tagged! (I am very lazy.) @anisecandy @bakageta @amaronith you guys... wanna do this..? 👀

I actually just realized I don't know if you're supposed to do WIPs or completed and published fics so I guess I could do like half and half??

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Dust to Dust, chapter 14 (WIP) - "You joke, Mr. Lyman, but that is how things stay in orbit."

Whatever Happens (we've got us) (Jubulile & Toxin) - “Seems like anywhere outside of New York, something weird happens and it’s all red tape and classified instead of just Tuesday.”

Walk without a Plan (WIP) - Protected behind a thin layer of glass was an old photo of four of the people who meant the most to him — Peter, Harry, Mary Jane, and Gwen.

All That I Ever Was (Flash & Venom Symbiote) - It showed him a connection and a closeness that went so far beyond what human concepts of intimacy could even fathom; a binding of two souls that they would never be able to escape.

A Matter of Choice (WIP) - “You always did strike me as a bit of a nerd, Flash—” And then the video flickered to life, revealing an incredibly familiar red mask. “—but Enter Prize? That’s not even subtle.”

(I Love the Girl) I Love the Guy (Eddie Brock/Anne Weying) - “You are going to be in so much trouble if you ever get to interview the Fantastic Four.”

Looking for a Complication (WIP) - The truth was, Flash didn’t want to let Harry out of his sight now, and he didn’t trust that prick J. Jonah Jameson’s driving skills if Kraven showed up again.

Caught in Another Web (WIP, but ch 1 is published) - “My name is Julia Carpenter. Hope you’re ready to help topple a corrupt US Government organization, Venom.”

It's Magic, You Know (WIP) - "I am assuming you're not here to bring me in, Ms… Maximoff."

Intervention (symbiote host!Peter, MJ, Eddie) - Eddie looked a little annoyed, Mary Jane maybe just exhausted as Peter turned his fury on the symbiote. It almost dropped the orange juice it had so nicely retrieved for him.

[kitausuret]

5-12 marvel asks

5. Favorite team: the easy answer here is, the Avengers! And there have been some really good lineups. I'm particularly fond of this West Coast Avengers lineup:

...and later on there's also a lineup with US Agent and Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter) that I totally adore.

The more complicated answer is, if they'd had time to develop, I'm pretty sure Flash's ragtag Space Knight crew would've ended up being an absolute favorite of mine. The Space Knights combined with the few folks he and Venom picked up galivanting across the galaxy would have been incredible all together but we'll never get to see it and I'll ALWAYS be upset about that.

6. Favorite run of your favorite team? ...well, uh, the Space Knight crew literally only appeared in Venom: Space Knight so. Yeah. That run. The only one in existence.

For the sake of keeping things interesting though, I also really like the Excalibur team, and Chris Claremont's run with them (Excalibur v1 #1-19, and then intermittently after that) is amazing. Claremont is far from a perfect writer but this series was SO much fun.

7. Favorite Silver Age comic: Ooooo, tough one - Avengers and Amazing Spider-Man are both really good, but honestly, I have to give this one to Spidey. Lee/Romita Sr. is absolutely unparalleled amazing-ness. Romita's pencils are so beautiful to look at and I think everyone should do themselves a favor and read some silver age Spidey. Just do it. GO. NOW.

Just. Just behold this unparalleled excellence.

8. Favorite solo hero: is it a cop-out if I say Spider-Man again? I loved Scarlet Witch's solo series, but ultimately I like her to be on a team, too. Peter Parker though? That man is a solo act if I ever saw one. And frankly I prefer it that way. I don't really like him being an Avenger, though I suppose I can accept him as a reservist, and occasional team-ups are fine but like. He's just so good on his own. Even his team-ups with Felicia, who he works well with, seem to always end in abject disaster. So yeah, let him stay on his own. (Panels from Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #89)

9. Favorite character introduced in the last ten years: this one's easy, it's Andrea Benton! I absolutely adore Jubulile van Scotter as well though. Both? Both.

10. Best development was answered right here!

11. Favorite ship? You mean I have to pick one? Well, why don't I go with a canon one, for once? PeterMJ will always be endgame. But they both have two hands, and Peter can have up to six. Ultimately though I don't think I could ever keep them apart. They will ALWAYS be soulmates of some kind or another. They're just amazing.

12. Favorite underrated character? Hmmm... probably Sam Buchanan, from Darkhold: Pages From the Book of Sins. He was one of the Darkhold Redeemers and Victoria Montesi's first emotional support blond himbo. (Her second was Eddie Brock (Toxin).) I love him.

[kitausuret]

Hi! For the ask game... How about Anne Weying for 9 and Venom Symbiote for 2? Oh, and maybe 21 with Toxin?

Sure!! Let's do it!

Anne Weying, 9 - What's your favorite headcanon for this character?

I need that girl to be bisexual. No but for real, I can't explain it, but she and Eddie both give off bi vibes to me. They are bi 4 bi. Maybe it's because I hc that for pretty much any m/f couple I enjoy, or because so MANY Spider-Man-adjacent characters have queer coding around them... I also think she and Beck Underwood would be a fine match for each other.

Venom Symbiote, 2 - What songs remind you of this character?

Wow, so for this Venom, I actually have three playlists of songs for hosts, and two of those have over 100 songs on them. But I'll pick a couple that I think have symby-specific vibes.

- "Dust to Dust" - The Civil Wars, The Civil Wars (2013) - okay I'm kind of cheating with this one because it's very much the symbiot3 @ each other BUUUT it is just such a very very perfect song. And yeah it's the title of my fic. It's not my fault it works! It's a beautiful song about learning to open up after a life of hardship and learning how to accept others into one's life again. I get both venomflash AND reunion!symbrock vibes from it.

- "Driven" - RUSH, Test for Echo (1996) - So, this song in my opinion kind of epitomizes, at least to me, the Symbiote's dynamic with Lee Price. In that being with him is literally like being in a car that is on a road of black ice and he's got fucking road rage and no seatbelts. This song is from an album that in many ways is about communication, and this one is basically about that communication breaking down. I think it's fitting!

- "Me and my Shadow" - Sammy Davis Jr. - It's kind of funny, since the one fic that takes lyrics from this song as its title is actually about Jubulile and Toxin, but the Venom Symbiote is the first and most famous and so this song is extremely fitting. I loved when Sinatra and Davis did this song together. I get 90s vibes!

Toxin, 21 -Talk about anything!

Anything? Anything at ALL? (cracks knuckles) I really need my boy Tox to get some honest to god good character development that STICKS like. For once. I need development beyond that super short lived mini that made Pat out to be an asshole. And I love Cullen Bunn and Gerry Conway (Rick Remender is eh in my book sometimes lol) but man none of them did Toxin literally any favors at all. Tox was the first grandchild and is still the only one with any real personality of its own. I still think Toxin and Jubulile should have been a thing, I felt like they were perfect for each other and I swear I'm not just tinfoil hatting it when I say I felt that's what Conway was setting up at the end of Carnage. I like Bren Waters, sure, but with Tanis Nieves dead and Claire Dixon MIA, as far as I know there is ONE woman of color who is still a host and that's Agony with Gemma Shin.

Anyways this is getting very rambly but Toxin deserves better! They do! I'm gonna scream and maybe write more fanfic about it.

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Thank you so much for these asks! Much to think about lol. If anyone wants to ask me more, my original post is right here and remember that I know pretty much all the Spider-Man characters! (please ask me about Spider-Man characters)

[kitausuret]

🏅, 💭, and 🍰!

Something I'm proud of: Well, obviously I'm proud of the fact that I've stuck with Dust to Dust for so long, but last month I wrote Don't Misread the Signs (sonyverse ot4, rated Explicit) which was a LONG time coming. I'd been wanting to write a foursome for D.A.V.E. for a really long time, like since the NIGHT I saw the movie, and it was very satisfying to finally get it down. I'm a bit sad it has garnered so little attention on ao3, but I was really proud because it was hard trying to choreograph that many limbs. 😅 Ultimately though I do write fic for myself so like, it's fine.

A headcanon about my own work: I don't really understand this question? But I'll share something I had thoughts on from Whatever Happens (we've got us)... So, my idea with this fic (in which Jubulile van Scotter and the Toxin Symbiote bond after Carnage '15) was, in order to not completely throw canon to the wind, that perhaps after a couple years, shit starts going down with Knull, Absolute Carnage, etc, and Tox is like, "I need to go home and try to protect people." Jubulile is sad to see them go, but she's probably like in the middle of starting university or something. Anyways, so that's how Toxin can still end up with Bren, even in my fic universe!

Fave comfort fics: I HAVE SO MANY... But I'll share just a few that I do find myself rereading over and over because they make me happy.

- Bonds of Honor - my very self-indulgent OC/symbiote OC fic where Isra Al-ard first meets her partner on Klyntar when she's recruited to be an Agent of the Cosmos. I haven't written and published a lot for them but this piece is like... it's so much to me I just love them. I need to finish the fic where they are trying to blend in with 21st century NYC after decades away from Earth lol.

- The Look of You - I'm sorry I literally can't shut up about this fic I love it so much ajshdhsjd it just makes me so happy whenever I open it!!! After a dear friend gave me really really positive reception on it, now I think of her every time I open it. It was really important for me to explore another aspect of Eddie's life with Flash and the Symbiote going right... but also him not even really realizing that it's going right. I actually have an artist planned that I'd like to reach out to and maybe get a piece based on this commissioned, and I kind of want to write the section that was essentially a fade to black. (yes that means I want to write them having sex) They are my #1 ot3 for a reason!!

- Can't You Show Me the Light? - this fic was sooooo self-indulgent it was literally just the symbiot3 looking at each other at different times of day but it's my goodnight fic. There's a bit about the Symbiote describing Eddie and it's one of my proudest paragraphs.

- It's a Pretty Wonderful Life - this was my first symbiot3 holiday special fic, which I wrote for @sircrypts many many moons ago. But it's become a personal favorite of mine and I just love everything about it - the Dr. Steven cameo, me stubbornly refusing to name the most recent spawn, Andi!!!, cameos from a bunch of the spidey cast, and of course kissing!!! and a midnight flight!!! @shadowy-dumbo-octopus also left me the biggest and best comment I've ever received in my life so I encourage you to scroll down and read it, it's amazing.

[kitausuret]

23, 25, and 34 From the 35 Questions list!

23. Do you prefer prompts and challenges, or completely independent ideas?

I absolutely thrive on prompts and challenges. A lot of times I have a bunch of random ideas bouncing around in my head, but it's really hard for me to get motivated to complete them. Having a prompt, even if I am doing the loosest interpretation in the WORLD of that prompt, gives me an excuse to actually Write the Damn Thing. Prompt challenges are my favorite. That's why I've injected @symbruary directly into my veins the last three years!

25. Have you ever daydreamed about side adventures/spin-offs from your fic? Tell us about them!

Absolutely. I have tons of these kinds of ideas, but at least regarding Dust to Dust (and to a lesser but probably more relevant extent, "We've Got Us" [the fic with Jubulile and Toxin post-Carnage) I would love to write a bunch of spin-offs. And by spin-offs I mean f/f stuff. Originally for DTD I was thinking Liz/Felicia, but the more I think about it the more I want to somehow make Liz/Betty a thing, especially since they will both be so recurrent in the fic.

I also want to explore some stuff with Manny/Vicky, if only because there's Literally Nothing for either of them. I haven't decided if I want Manuela Calderon to stick around New York or if I'm going to ship her back to Virginia, but I'd like to think that she and Vicky get a stable if occasionally long-distance-ish relationship. Victoria Montesi is also a very cool character of her own right, and I think maybe some follow-up for their lives is deserved. It would be way more loosely tangential to the actual events of DTD, though, if only because you can only make a "shut up, Brock" joke so many times before it wears thin. (I'm kidding, it's always funny.)

34. Copy and paste an excerpt you’re particularly fond of.

HEHE I get to do this again. Since I just talked about "(Whatever Happens) We've Got Us" let me give a little bit of a part I really enjoyed writing and meant a lot to me:

His smile faded. "Jubulile, I'm trying my best, but I don't mind telling you I'm a long ways from okay." He crossed his arms and stared out at the ocean. "Toxin and I… we weren't a good match. There's only one symbiote that ever was and we ended badly. But it takes work to be symbiotic. That's something I wish I'd realized sooner. You get out of it what you put into it." "In the end, though, you were heroes, right?" "I wasn't the one who pushed Chthon back into hell." "You helped protect me, and everyone." She nudged him back. "My father was my hero, and I think he would've thought the same of you." "All I did was hand Toxin over to you." Still, Eddie's smile looked a little emotional. "But, yeah, I guess we were heroes."

It's very subtle because I really wanted this fic to be about Jubulile and not Eddie Brock, because I've written enough of that, but I think internally Eddie would cry a little over the comparison. Jubulile adored her father, he was a wonderful man, and Eddie can tell as much from the way she talks about him. Given his extremely strained relationship with his own father, hearing from Jubulile that she thinks her father would've appreciated Eddie's efforts... it had to mean something to him.

35. Ramble about any fic-related thing you want!

Writing is hard and sometimes you go 6 months or 19 months without an update and sometimes you just can't write and sometimes you write a lot and nobody looks at it but just remember that even one hit, one kudos, means that somebody is happy that you shared your work. They are happy you shared your fic with the world and I hope anyone who's reading this remembers that. Your weird rarepair that you had to create the tag for; that obscure character who was in just a couple issues; your polyship that someone else frowned upon inspired something in you and that's beautiful. If it makes you happy, keep writing, keep creating, and keep sharing. I love you and I support you. 💕

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